Simple JFET Preamp for an iDevice Guitar Interface
Following up on Part 1, it’s time now to get into the heart of the project:
In this video, I talk about how JFET’s work, then work up a circuit diagram (as shown at right).
Then, I prototype the circuit on the breadboard of my Radioshack Electronics Learning Lab Model 28-280, and finally play through the circuit to show how it sounds.
In Part 3, I’ll demonstrate how to assemble the circuit so that it fits entirely inside the jack.
Here are some useful resources and background reading:
- Great interactive simulation of a JFET
Some articles on JFET preamps:
- http://www.rason.org/Projects/jfetamp/jfetamp.htm
- http://www.hawestv.com/amp_projects/fet_preamp/fetpreamp1.htm
Tillman’s FET preamp using the J201:
Some relevant forum topics:
- http://forum.harmonicdog.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6&start=50
- http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=85913.0
- http://sgitornado.altervista.org/diyirig.html
ibanez350mdx
September 23, 2011 @ 8:14 pm
I ‘ve never really had any interest in plugging a guitar into an idevice but if that amplitube app is free I’m definitely building one of these.
John
September 23, 2011 @ 9:11 pm
@ibanez350mdx – yes, the free version includes a couple cabinets and a few effects, plus a simple tuner and an audio player with slow-downer speed control. It’s great for practicing. Then you can buy more cabs/effects a la carte or buy the whole thing for like $20. Enjoy!
ibanez350mdx
September 23, 2011 @ 10:09 pm
@johnplanetz awesome. cant wait for part 3. I’m going to go to radioshack and then find my ipod touch.
thecleaner084
September 23, 2011 @ 11:08 pm
yes! you’re back. missed your vids!
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September 24, 2011 @ 9:01 pm
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Dmitry
September 27, 2011 @ 12:02 pm
Hi, i try to build this buf, there aren’t any jfet except 2n5457. R2 must be near 10-30k. Thanks for Schematics.
U can dont damage you 3.5 4pin – 3rca cable. Use rca female-buf-6.3mm male cable.
John
September 27, 2011 @ 2:15 pm
Hi Dmitry,
Thanks for the source-resistor value suggestion for 2N5457- glad that worked well!
Yes, if you don’t want to cut the ends off an existing cable, using female->male adapters is a good idea.
-John
ruel
November 10, 2015 @ 4:32 am
HI JOHN I WAS CONVINCED BY YOUR VIDEO TO BUILD MY OWN IRIG,INSTEAD OF ORDERING IT.MY WORRIES IS,ITS HARD TO FIND THOSE JFET HERE.AND I JUST FOUND ONE KIND,THE “J109” CAN THIS THING WORK?AND WHAT RESISTOR AND DIODE SHOULD I USE?THANKS A LOT
ruel
November 10, 2015 @ 5:05 am
I CHECKED ALSO THEY HAVE J112,BF56B.CAN YOU PLEASE MATCH A RESISTOR AND DIODE FOR THIS JFET.THANK YOU SO MUCH
John
November 10, 2015 @ 8:44 am
Those parts you listed look like switches, not amplifiers.
You need to look at the data sheets, and find something comparable to the jfet amplifier parts listed here.
Good luck!
-John
OVProyect
November 8, 2011 @ 2:47 pm
Hey John first of, I want to thank you for your patience explaining everything very well, I am building my own iDevice and I couldn’t find the MPF-102 transistor, can I replace it with a 2N5457?
thanks again
John
November 8, 2011 @ 2:50 pm
@OVProyect – yes, you can use a 2N5457, but you’ll need a bigger source resistor. Try some values between 10k and 50k, instead of the 1.2k I suggested for the MPF102. One person reported having luck with a 47k source resistor.
OVProyect
November 8, 2011 @ 4:37 pm
@johnplanetz Ok as I was very anxious about all this, I did it before I read your response because I didn’t think you would erite back so quickly. So it works with the 1.2 k resistor and it got rid of most of the problems although it’s still a little distorted, so I think I’ll have to go back to radioshack and purchase the 10 k one, thanks for the response John, cheers!
Robert
May 22, 2020 @ 4:14 pm
I’m using a IRFZ46N with the 1.2K resistor and the sounds arrives kinda distorted to the mic. Should I increase the resistor value?
John Cooper
May 22, 2020 @ 7:59 pm
Not sure. Sounds like you’ll need to do some experiments. Use bread board or alligator clips to easily try different resistor values.
Good luck!
-John
gullywoots
December 4, 2011 @ 2:17 pm
Apple should pay you. I hadn’t given the iPad any serious thoughts until hearing those amplitube samples.
reppait
December 10, 2011 @ 9:00 am
hi what do you think about using 2n3819 ? It looks very similar to mpf102 .
John
December 13, 2011 @ 10:01 am
@reppait – I took a look at the datasheet- looks like it should be no problem.
reppait
December 10, 2011 @ 9:15 am
at 7:55 are the zeners inverted ? Maybe i’m wrong but your scheme looks different , cathode and anod are inverted
John
December 13, 2011 @ 10:08 am
@reppait – You’re right- sorry for the confusion here- these were reversed from the schematic. However, it doesn’t really matter here. If you think about what these zeners are doing– current will flow freely in one direction, and if the voltage exceeds the breakdown voltage, it will also flow in the other direction. So it doesn’t matter which one comes first.
John Taylor
January 3, 2012 @ 4:20 am
Thank you for these great tutorials, you’re a born teacher (high praise in my book). I built the active guitar lead into a Neutrik SilentPlug (http://www2.neutrik.com/uk/en/audio/204_826925229/silentPLUG_productlist.aspx), these are great in case you don’t know them, they have a sleeve which operates a reed switch by magnet to short out the input when withdrawn. This is particularly useful when you’ve increased the input impedance to 3 megohm, you can safely move the lead from one guitar to another without muting the amp, no more high level splats! Has anyone found a good source resistor for the J201? These are slightly lower noise and easier to find in England.
John
January 3, 2012 @ 5:08 pm
Hi John,
Thanks for the message.
Yes, those silent plugs are great. I made a bunch of cables for all my guitarist friends- silentplug on one end to avoid pops when changing guitars. Pricey connectors (around US$8). but totally worth it.
Cool that you fit a preamp inside one! 🙂
-John
John Taylor
January 3, 2012 @ 4:24 am
Addendum.
Sorry, hit send too soon! I’ll now build the iPad interface and wanted to use your circuit with the J201, it was for this 2.8v circuit that I was looking for the correct source resistor.
John
January 3, 2012 @ 5:05 pm
For the J201, start with a 1.2K ohm source resistor. See how that works!
-John
TheMILOKLIZ
February 8, 2012 @ 6:16 pm
what the hell …
rye quino
March 20, 2012 @ 5:56 am
hi.. i was just wondering on what capacitors to use? my friend told me that capacitors have specs like volts and farrad? sorry, im a little illiterate on circuits and the like.. thank you for the great tutorials..
John
March 20, 2012 @ 9:40 am
This circuit doesn’t require any capacitors.
The resistors in this circuit can be 1/4W or 1/8W, carbon composition or metal film- doesn’t really matter. See the parts list in part 3 of this series:
https://www.planetz.com/?p=1536
If you’re looking for some general information on caps, you could watch my video here:
https://www.planetz.com/?p=667
-John
rye quino
March 24, 2012 @ 2:32 am
hi.. i have made a this jack but i would like to ask if i can use this jack and connect to my amplifier instead of speaker? i tried using it but it is grounded.. on my headphones its okay but on my amplifier it sound grounded.. thanks..
John
March 29, 2012 @ 6:00 pm
It should just work. I use it like that sometimes. I use a 1/8″ stereo mini adapter to dual RCA, then plug an RCA to 1/4″ cable into one side of that, and into my amp. Works fine.
John
AxekickerDotCom
March 21, 2012 @ 12:21 am
Great vid. How about a vid showing how to build a Stratoblaster with a JFET that goes under a flat plate jack like with see on Alembic’s site?
John
March 25, 2012 @ 10:38 pm
@AxekickerDotCom – thanks for the suggestion. I’m planning a video on how to make a boost pedal. It would be pretty easy to mount such a thing below the pickguard of a strat, rather than in a separate enclosure. You could even make one that fits into a cable, as I did in my ipad cable, but you’d need to provide a 9v power source somewhere. See Tillman’s cable preamp. till. com/articles/PreampCable/
jhanell
April 23, 2012 @ 2:19 am
Nice One Bro.. wait is it ok to try BF245C or(J201 )?
riddler2468oasis
May 13, 2012 @ 1:42 am
OMG! I think building an iDevice guitar interface myself is awesome but you can even improve its tone quality!! You’re genius and I love your videos so much! They’re useful~
John
May 13, 2012 @ 9:12 pm
Thanks! As for improving the tone quality- using the mic/headphone jack isn’t the most high-fidelity way to make an audio interface for the iPad. For better fidelity, you really need an interface with its own A/D using the 30-pin dock. This would not be an easy DIY project!
rspicky1
May 19, 2012 @ 12:29 am
can i use jfet bc547
John
May 24, 2012 @ 4:53 pm
bc547 is an NPN transistor, not a jfet
Manel
May 24, 2012 @ 5:12 am
Hi John,
I made one of this and works fine, or almost. A strange thing happens.
Ampkit and amplitube works perfect with no bad sounds on iphone 3,4 and new ipad
GerageBand works perfect on iphone 4 but buzzes on iPad. I don’t know what happens here. Do you have some idea about? Thanks a lot for your work!
John
May 24, 2012 @ 4:50 pm
That’s strange- I’m not sure what that could be!
Daniel
June 15, 2012 @ 4:33 pm
Hi!
Does this audio interface works with PC ?
I want to build an audio interface for PC, because if I use the Line-in on my Sound Blaster X-Fi it have a lot of “hiss” noise, I use AmpliTube 3 and Guitar Rig 4.
John
June 24, 2012 @ 9:05 pm
If your PC has a mic-input, it will probably work. But if you only have a line-in, then it won’t provide the necessary power for the jfet.
-John
Daniel
September 5, 2012 @ 3:59 am
I do have a Mic input on my sound card, but I don’t use it for my guitar, because it’s too noisy for me.
I still have some “hiss” noise when I use my Line-in.
Can I power externally the JFET ? Maybe from a 9v battery or power adapter with a voltage regulator.
Thanks for your answer in advance!
Daniel
John
September 5, 2012 @ 10:57 am
Take a look at Tillman’s Preamp cable (as linked in my original post above). He uses a little battery box to power the preamp.
-John
Daniel
September 6, 2012 @ 2:44 pm
Thanks for your help!
I’m going to build this interface, then I will test with my PC.
Daniel
September 7, 2012 @ 7:30 pm
I just finished building my interface, and it worked out flawlessly!
As you said, I connected to the Mic input and it worked right away as I plugged in my guitar!
The noise issues is almost gone now, I still hear some noise in the background but it is much, much better than before! Also, the volume and the treble pots are working normally.
I’m going to build a battery box and then test this baby out using the Line-in. 🙂
Thanks for this awesome device! 🙂
John
September 7, 2012 @ 8:52 pm
Nice! That’s great to hear.
Some amount of noise is normal. This is not an ultra hi-fi connection unfortunately.
Enjoy!
John
ragulka
June 17, 2012 @ 4:48 am
Hey, do You know if BF256B would work as a replacement for MPF102?
John
June 18, 2012 @ 3:29 pm
I haven’t tried it, but the datasheet makes it look pretty comparable to the mpf102.
Double-check the pin orientation, I think the drain and gate pins are reversed compared with the mpf102.
John
rye quino
July 1, 2012 @ 1:35 am
hi.. i would like to make my second cable but my problem is 2N5457 ran out of stock.. can i use 2n5551?
John
July 1, 2012 @ 10:50 pm
2n5551 is an NPN transistor, not a JFET.
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Wayne Foster
August 21, 2012 @ 12:52 pm
Your awesome… Thanks for the info and all, it’s a nice little project.
So I connected the cables without the transistor,resistors an diodes and my michrophone doesn’t work anymore (On my headset ie.) Aparently the input is damaged on my iPhone 4S. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Idk what might have happened and how to check what is what?
Thanks in advance…
John
August 26, 2012 @ 9:36 pm
I’d suspect a wiring issue with your cable/jacks. You should double check the jack wiring. See part 1 of my video ( https://www.planetz.com/?p=1510 ) where I show how to identify the cable wires with a multimeter, and hook it up with alligator leads…
To rule out the iphone itself:
– Is the built-in iphone microphone working ok?
– Does a standard pair of headphones work?
– Try a cheap wired headset- does that work ok?
-John
Wayne Foster
August 26, 2012 @ 10:31 pm
My headphones and built in michrophone works, it’s just the mic input on the iPhone that doesn’t work anymore. I’m not sure but I believe the mic input got fried in the process, i don’t know for sure.
I could use my headphones to make calls but now I can’t; I can hear but others can’t hear me. I tried other headphones and eventually resorted to using the built in michrophone on the phone (by removing the headphones) as they didn’t work either.
I’d try the project again but theres no input to work with. Do you know what could have happened and what I can do to possibly solve the problem?
John
August 27, 2012 @ 3:52 pm
Hi Wayne,
When I was prototyping my circuit, I made lots of mistakes, short circuits, etc, and did not have any problem with damage to the mic input on the ipad. My impression is that it’s a pretty robust circuit – but I suppose it’s possible you damaged yours somehow.
Have you used a multimeter to confirm that you still have 2.8V dc on the mic input? (See part 1 of the video where I show how to do that).
-John
amplivibe
September 11, 2012 @ 1:40 pm
Thanks a lot for the great videos! I followed your schematic and used a bf245c and it works great! Good job on putting it in such a small box. I put everything in a 5×3.5×2.5 cm box so I’m very satisfied 🙂
Darren
October 9, 2012 @ 5:27 am
First of all, thanks John for the most detailed explanations on the net!
Anyway, amplivibe, I used a BF245b (there’s absolutely no MPF102s, J201s found here in singapore!), but I’m getting quite a bit of distortion still. Could you please share the R2 value you used, so that I have something to start trial and error with?
Much appreciated,
Darren
John
October 9, 2012 @ 9:08 am
Hi Darren,
You could try installing a trimpot temporarily, in place of R2. That will let you easily experiment until you find a position that works. Then remove it, measure the trimpot resistance with a multimeter, and pick an R2 close to that value.
-John
Darren
October 21, 2012 @ 9:29 am
Hi John,
I’ve tried playing with the R2 values using a 2k pot and then a 10k pot, but I still can’t get the bf245b to sound good, what i get is muddy and distorted exactly like an unbiased fuzz.
Could you suggest other replacements for the jFET? Or perhaps the key parameters of the jFET that I should look for in a replacement?
Much appreciated,
Darren
John
October 21, 2012 @ 9:35 pm
Hi Darren,
I would expect the bf245b to work ok. Are you sure there’s no other problem with your circuit? Are you testing this on a breadboard, so you have plenty of space to experiment, and can easily break down the circuit to the basics and test each step? Do you have another jfet to swap in, in case there’s a problem with your particular bf245b?
-John
Coda
July 18, 2013 @ 5:49 am
My build with a BF245B works fine, after experimenting with R2 with a trimpot (I used a 5K). Something around 500-600R works for me. A 560-680R (standard value resistor) should work fine.
BTW I should mention that I used 3.3V zeners but this shouldnt have any effect on the input as the guitar signals are well below this level. (You didn’t put these zeners the wrong way around did you?).
John
July 18, 2013 @ 8:20 am
3.3v is a little low, but it should be fine. A typical guitar signal is < 1v, but there may be peaks a little higher. It doesn't matter which way round the zeners go - you just want them facing opposite directions- to catch electrostatic charges in either direction. -John
Paul
September 24, 2012 @ 11:04 am
John, thanks for this demo! I put together what I am calling the modular version. In my bin of “various AV cables” I found an iWhatever Red-White-Yellow RCA’s to TRRS, with yellow wired to the mic ring. I also had a R/W Male RCA to female 1/8th headphone Y cable.
So I thought why splice all these together, instead I built the circuit in a small Radio shack box with 1/4″ in and Female RCA out and everything plugs together. The headphone Y cable gets swapped for a RCA’s to Male mono 1/4″ for connecting to my amp.
what are your thoughts on going into a home stereo? I’ve heard it suggested that distorted waveforms can be bad for home speakers…
John
September 27, 2012 @ 9:42 am
Cool, thanks for sharing! I wouldn’t worry about damaging your home speakers, unless you are playing at excessive volume (true for any kind of sound, not just distorted sounds).
-John
Paul
September 24, 2012 @ 11:06 am
here is the direct link to my photo if the html didn’t work…
http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj499/lichtaffe/Photobucket%2BDesktop%2B-%2BPauls%2BMac%2BPro/photo3_zps9dd21c58.jpg
John
September 27, 2012 @ 9:42 am
That link doesn’t appear to work…
Paul
September 29, 2012 @ 5:58 pm
ok… try this:
https://www.box.com/s/4vfytpbu39hq60aq6f5x
John
October 2, 2012 @ 4:10 pm
Yes, that works. Looks nice!
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ragulka
October 21, 2012 @ 4:34 am
Hey, I just wanted to say that I have successfully built this cable with the 2N3819 JFET instead. I kept all the other components (resistor values, etc) the same. It didn’t work in the beginning, but then it suddently kicked off, maybe it was something to do with the iPhone not detecting the line level input at first, dunno.
Anyway, it sounds great with the iPhone 4S.
Too bad it doesn’t work with the Macbook Air – the headphone sound is very weird and the input doesn’t work at all – Macbook does not detect it at all in the System Preferences.
John
October 21, 2012 @ 9:12 am
Great news, you got it working!
I think the input on the MacBook Air is a line in, not mic in, so there’s no power for the jfet.
John
frooggy
November 5, 2012 @ 1:15 pm
Hi John! I cant get MPF102, J201 or 2N5457, instead the guy at store got me the 2SK246, told me that was equivalent to 2N5457, can i use this one?
Tnx, for the great tutorial!
John
November 5, 2012 @ 3:35 pm
I don’t have specific experience with that jfet, but it’ll probably work ok. You may have to experiment with resistor values- so test on breadboard first. Good luck!
John
frooggy
November 5, 2012 @ 5:11 pm
I have tested in a test board and i get no audio out, i tried several setups and nothing. On amplitube, the mic and out levels are up and down, even without playing any note. 🙁 Can u help me? Tnx.
Paul
November 5, 2012 @ 7:19 pm
I would double check TRRS connections… not all cables are the same… mine was different than the one in the video.
also, the MPF102 is regular stock item at Radio shack… that’s what I used.
But just double check your layout, if you are new to such projects, and I’ve only done a couple, It can take a bit of work to translate the 2D layout to the real world.
my 2cents.
John
November 5, 2012 @ 7:45 pm
Double-check the data sheet for the 2SK246- the gate, source, drain pins are in a different order compared to the MPF102, etc.
John
frooggy
November 6, 2012 @ 11:55 am
So I got some sound, but is very low, and i am just testing with no electronics. What is the setup on amplitube?
John
November 6, 2012 @ 12:10 pm
My settings are
In Level: -6
Out level: +5
Built In Mic: off
Latency: Ultra Low
No Feedback: Auto
If you’ve turned up the in/out levels in Amplitube and still only hear low levels, you need to experiment with your resistor values to increase the jfet gain.
-John
Gabriel Sanchez
November 6, 2012 @ 9:17 am
Hey i made one of these for my ipad and was hoping that it would work for my macbook pro however it is not detected by the macbook pro. i have one of those 2012 model macbook pro’s that only has a headphone jack that can detect mic input with the apple headphones (4pin headphones). do you think the macbook isn’t giving the 2.8v like the ipad and would require an external battery to power the jfet?
John
November 7, 2012 @ 4:12 pm
Should be easy to check with your multimeter in DCV mode- just plug in your cable, and check for a voltage across the various wires coming from the mac.
-John
James B.
November 15, 2012 @ 8:32 pm
I was just curious to know if it is possible to make the R3 adjustable via a potentiometer/knob if assembled in a project box.
I feel it would be useful when using more than one instrument.
What components would be needed, and how would it be wired?
John
November 15, 2012 @ 8:38 pm
You can easily replace any of the resistors with a trimpot or larger potentiometer. Just prototype on breadboard and experiment to find parts that work.
John
randy
December 9, 2012 @ 9:47 pm
hi.. i cant find mpf102 jfet transistor.. please can you suggest another # transistor.. sorry for my english..
and the resistor is that half? thanks man. advance..
-philippines
John
December 10, 2012 @ 6:07 pm
There are some alternatives listed in the schematic, and also some others discussed in the comments here. Please take a look!
I’m not sure what you are asking about the resistors.
-John
randy
December 10, 2012 @ 7:52 pm
i mean big resistor. you are using a 1/4 right? i bought 1/2 size.. is that ok?
John
December 12, 2012 @ 12:15 pm
This circuit is low power, so you can use resistors as low as 1/8W. The lower power-rating means they are physically smaller, which will help them fit better in a small enclosure (like the jack I show in the video).
Resistors with higher power rating like 1/2W or 1W resistors will work fine, but are physically larger.
-John
randy
December 12, 2012 @ 10:06 pm
thanks john.. ill show you my project when done.
request 🙂 :can you do tutorial mini audio amplifier can play 80w of speaker?
hehe thanks john.
randy. PH
John
December 14, 2012 @ 12:24 pm
No plans right to do an amplifier tutorial…
I’ll look forward to seeing your finished project!
-John
Dan Marinescu
January 1, 2013 @ 12:37 pm
Hello John.
2SK170 (LSK170) is a JFET used in hi-fi and hi-end audio.
Is a high-gain and very low noise JFET.Can be used in your plan?
I am interested to use the electric guitar in the microphone input of the PC sound card.This input generates a voltage that can power your preamplifier.It can?What do you think?
P.S. I do not write well in english.Am used a program to write you.
John
January 1, 2013 @ 1:45 pm
It’s probably ok – just check the data sheet, and give it a try.
John
John Taylor
January 2, 2013 @ 3:42 am
Hi Dan,
I’ve successfully used the buffer circuit with a computer. The 3.5mm mic jack “usually” has a biasing voltage on it suitable for an electret condenser, typically 3 volts. The lower the voltage, the less headroom you get in the buffer. If your guitar clips the input to the buffer, this is likely to be why. Just reduce the output volume on your guitar and it should be fine.
John
John
January 2, 2013 @ 11:25 am
Thanks for the tips John!
Dan, let us know how it goes.
-John
Dan
January 6, 2013 @ 2:28 pm
Ok.
murkcore1
January 11, 2013 @ 11:36 am
Thank for this nice instructional vid. I was wondering if your circuit design can be used for pc as well without any modification? or if not, can you design something similar for pc. like having minimal parts and requires no extra power source. I wanted to build one for pc but all of the circuit designs I found requires extra power from a 9volt battery. Can you help me please. Thanks
John
January 18, 2013 @ 2:33 pm
If your PC has a mic-input, it will probably work. But if you only have a line-in, then it won’t provide the necessary power for the jfet. Check your PC’s input with a multimeter to see if it carries a DC voltage.
Pat
January 14, 2013 @ 8:01 pm
I built one of these in a workbox with perfboard and an extra 1/4″ TRS output. Works great! Way cool John!
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shreeny
March 5, 2013 @ 12:45 pm
how can i add a power supply to this circuit so that I can plug a head phones instead of an iDevice?
John
March 8, 2013 @ 2:17 pm
If you are asking how to make a standalone device that you can plug your guitar into and listen on headphones, you need to look elsewhere. E.g. see the generalguitargadgets headphone amp for a schematic.
petromic1947
April 2, 2013 @ 3:52 am
Thanks for the demo, can I use this preamp for the Violin?
cheers
John
April 7, 2013 @ 9:12 pm
This circuit depends on the power-source from the iPad. To use this as an instrument preamp, you would need an independent power source, like a 9v battery. Search for Tillman’s powered preamp cable for an example project.
catupdotcom
April 8, 2013 @ 5:36 pm
you’re the coolest dude on youtube.
catupdotcom
April 8, 2013 @ 5:36 pm
you’re the coolest dude on youtube.
PPRMDS
April 12, 2013 @ 3:41 am
Hi johnplanetz, do you show the values of the resistors which you use in the video? Thank you in advance.
John
April 12, 2013 @ 9:21 am
I discuss the schematic and resistor values at 5:52
WorkflowBeats
April 16, 2013 @ 4:45 am
+1 the coolest dude on youtube!
I don’t seem to find the transistor you used.
Could you point me out some alternatives that might work?
John
April 16, 2013 @ 12:10 pm
See the link below the video to my blog. I list some alternate JFETs in the schematic there, and there’s a lot of discussion in the blog comments about other JFET’s that people have used successfully.
radioesparta
April 19, 2013 @ 5:35 pm
Thank you so much from latinamerica. You have this amazing a simple easy way to explain things, especially electronics, here turn to be to expensive to buy an Irig.
spiaggi1
July 16, 2013 @ 4:20 pm
Hola, sos de Argentina? Vi Irig en mercadolibre a menos de 200mangos. Igual lo que muestra este chabon esta bárbaro y es mucho más barato.
ZychuZychu
April 22, 2013 @ 1:24 pm
Is it possible to adapt this device for using it with regular PC? Instead of 2.7V from iPad I could use 2x AA batteries. Would that work?
John
April 23, 2013 @ 9:12 am
The microphone input on a PC often carries a similar voltage, to drive an electret microphone preamp. If you only have a line input, then yes, you could look into adding a battery box to power this preamp circuit.
ZychuZychu
April 23, 2013 @ 1:13 pm
Well I have both line and mic inputs, so I guess I’ll just measure the voltage on mic input and if it turns the same then Im off to build such preamp 🙂 I will also measure its impedance. If it will be for ex. 500k, then instead of 1M resistor I should just put 500k, right?
John
April 23, 2013 @ 1:15 pm
You won’t need to change the impedance in the circuit– that 1M resistor provides a high impedance input for your guitar.
ZychuZychu
April 24, 2013 @ 1:25 pm
Ah, right, its for guitar. I was thinking about line-in/mic impedance. Do I need to consider that, or just follow your schematic?
John
April 24, 2013 @ 1:50 pm
This circuit output is rather low impedance. You shouldn’t have an issue.
ZychuZychu
April 25, 2013 @ 5:27 am
Great, added to my must-do list 🙂 Thanks for your help!
midi aip
May 6, 2013 @ 9:25 am
great circuit can i use direct box
Coda
May 26, 2013 @ 10:27 am
I have some BS170’s in my parts bin, I think they will work, but I was wondering; I do a lot of electronics but haven’t done a huge amount of stuff with transistors (mostly digital stuff), so what parameters are important for FETs to say whether they are suitable or not?
John
May 29, 2013 @ 4:45 pm
I usually look at the voltage range (guitar voltages are quite small, around 1V), and Idss (the max output current, or the saturation point for the output). The BS170 has much higher voltage and Idss than the MPF102 (and higher input capacitance, etc) – I’m not sure how well it does with small signals. Try it and see…
-John
Coda
July 18, 2013 @ 5:44 am
Nope, BS170 didn’t work. I got hold of a BF245B though, which after tweaking the 1K2 resistor (dialed it to ~560R with a miniature trim-pot) works great. Good call on the extra 10K, I tried without it, and on my single coil strat it was a little easier to peak the meter but on the humbucker-fitted shrednasty it overloads on moderate power chords.
Rye aquino
May 30, 2013 @ 8:51 am
Hi! Im successful in making this device except for 1 thing.. The device is flawless using my headphones and amplifier but after i plug in my speaker, the device seems grounded.. Any advice to fix this? Thanks!
John
May 31, 2013 @ 9:27 am
If it works in headphones but not with your speakers, I’d guess there’s an issue with the wire/cable/connectors being used to connect the device to the speaker…
-John
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June 2, 2013 @ 2:49 am
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ayush pradhan
July 4, 2013 @ 3:22 am
can i use bjt
spiaggi1
July 16, 2013 @ 4:21 pm
Hi, about the zener diodes, are they 5v/1w?
John
July 16, 2013 @ 4:36 pm
Yes. e.g. 1N4733A. See my blog “Assembling the iDevice Guitar Interface” a list of some suggested parts, and links.
spiaggi1
July 16, 2013 @ 8:26 pm
Thanks so much mate.
IC3NTR4L
August 22, 2013 @ 8:34 pm
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cjfin00
September 4, 2013 @ 3:00 pm
Say man, how will this work with a bass? Is it the same thing?
John
September 4, 2013 @ 3:03 pm
Yes, it works the same with bass.
cjfin00
September 4, 2013 @ 3:46 pm
Cool, I’m gonna give it a whirl. Thanks for your blazing fast response!
Brett
September 5, 2013 @ 9:49 pm
Hi John,
I’m a tech myself, and it was great to see that someone had put something like this together. One thing I found with this little project was this. I’ve got big hands with long fingers, and trying to solder that damned TRRS connector neatly was a nightmare for me. I found the following Belkin cable at my local big store. It says that they cost $24.95, but mine cost me $2.50 ?
http://www.belkin.com/au/F8Z605-Belkin/p/P-F8Z605
Now all I should have to do is chop off the mic on the cable and replace it with your little buffer circuit and the 1/4 inch socket. Bingo a nice neat cable without all the soldering headache 🙂
John
September 5, 2013 @ 10:26 pm
Yes, working in tight spaces one of the unique challenges of this project. I’m happy you found a workaround!
John
jimmy
November 30, 2013 @ 8:09 pm
hi john, I’m from Indonesia and
I’m interested in learning it you in
the videos part
I wanted to know what
resistors are you wearing?
please help me, I’d love to learn
John
December 3, 2013 @ 5:11 pm
Please see the schematic at the top of this post- it shows the resistor values.
-John
jimmy
December 3, 2013 @ 8:30 pm
oke thx john 🙂
Drew Webster
January 3, 2014 @ 7:54 pm
I really like your videos and find your knowledge of electronics
fascinating. I know this is an old video, but i have a couple of questions,
and was hoping you could provide an answer or two. My first is if this
could be used with a computer, only using a separate headphone and mic
cable. My second is if, instead of adding a permanent 10K resistor to the
circuit, could a 25k trim pot be used instead to vary the resistance for
different output pickups and also add some more headroom to the circuit. I
use both single coil and humbucker pickups and, although turning the input
volume up on the amp sim is easy enough, I think that might be a good tweak
to the circuit.
Brandon Li
January 26, 2014 @ 4:05 pm
Hi John! Is this preamp for guitars only? Or any type of line signal?
suitable
February 2, 2014 @ 2:26 pm
Hello John! Thanks a lot for your videos.
If I’ll use russian jfet’s KP303E or KP305D, what resistance R2 should be? Or how I can determine it…
John
February 2, 2014 @ 9:07 pm
I don’t have any experience with those jfet’s. You can experiment with various resistors to find a value that works, or use a trimpot. I’d expect something in the range 1k – 10k would work.
Phelim Burgess
February 16, 2014 @ 3:23 pm
Hi John
i was planning to build a piezo pickup preamp and had already bought some
JFET when I saw your video and decided that an iDevice preamp might be more
fun. It took me a while to understand that the ground from the iPad needs
to ground the circuit but that’s probably just beginners idiocy and your
tutorial could not have been more verbose. The weird thing I encountered
was, the guitar sounded really out-of-tune. No amount of tuning could fix
the offness of certain tones up and down the fretboard. I put a 1microF
capacitor on the drain and the detuning disappeared. I had no diodes on
hand so I left them out. Do you think the diodes in your circuit are
de-oscillating the input from guitar?
I had to use Toshiba 2SK369 as no other JFET was available here in Germany.
I can really recommend them. The low noise is spooky. Nothing comes through
the preamp until you touch the strings of the guitar and then there’s so
much signal it’s too much for the headphones. I used my studio monitor
instead.
Thanks for the great tutorial.
Phelim
dave
February 18, 2014 @ 9:38 pm
Hi John,
thanks for the cool tutorial. i breadboarded the circuit and hooked it up and it works, but my ipod’s internal mic won’t shut off. so I get the guitar sound and then any other sounds coming in also. I’m using a new ipod touch with ios7. have you ever heard of this?
thanks,
dave
John
February 18, 2014 @ 9:53 pm
Hi Dave,
No, I haven’t seen that behavior. Strange that both the internal mic and external mic are active at the same time!
Cool that you’re doing this on breadboard- experiment with your wiring and confirm that it’s all correct. Perhaps there’s a mistake in there…
-John
Keverne
June 17, 2014 @ 1:11 am
Hi Dave
I have a iPad Mini that does the same thing “occasionally”. Can’t track down why, but figured to does it in a noisy environmental. I make sure it’s quiet, open the app (Garage Band), then plug in the interface and then it works. Otherwise the interface and the internal mic work simultaneously causing havoc.
Regards
Keverne
Brandon Li
February 27, 2014 @ 1:42 am
I was thinking through an issue I’m facing and thought of your video. Would
this be good for running a guitar into the mic in port on a laptop?
Erik Henriksson
April 12, 2014 @ 1:50 pm
Can i use this transistor instead of the one from JFET?
http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/MP/MPF102.pdf
John Cooper
April 15, 2014 @ 10:53 am
@Erik Henriksson – the MPF102 is the JFET I used in my circuit
DogRox00
May 17, 2014 @ 1:08 pm
Nice…. big difference!!! Good job doode!!! 🙂
Kevin M. Coring
May 25, 2014 @ 9:51 pm
Hello sir, i am VERY inexperienced with electronics so i may sound a bit
dumb here but while digging around i came across a bag of BC337-25
transistors. i looked up the data sheet and have no idea what i’m looking
at but was wondering if it would be possible to use it for this preamp if
the other parts were modified to work with the BC337-25?
theonewhofailed
June 19, 2014 @ 11:51 am
Are your Zeners Flipped? The schematic you drew has cathodes facing away
from each other and it seems you have cathodes facing each other on the
circuit. Does it matter? One of the diodes is going to get activated with
anything over .7V, meanwhile the other will still wait for the reverse
breakdown voltage. I know it’s a failsafe for static discharges, just
wondering if the orientation matters.
Adi Soesilo
August 13, 2014 @ 8:32 pm
hi john great tutorial and i’m reallly super intrested to build one on my
own… well i’m still preparing the component and i have a question about
the zener diode since i’m not good at electronic component… is it 5 or 6
V on both of the diode or is it the value of each diode so the total of 2
diode will be 10 or 12 V… and um when i try to buy, the sales asked me
whether it’s 1W or 0.5W… i’m really sorry for my lack of knowledge but
your help will be truly appreciated…thanks
Mustafa Yancı
September 4, 2014 @ 7:51 am
thanks a lot for this great tutorial. but i couldn’t made this i think. o i
used wrong transistor. the seller give me F254C fet. he said “i do not have
MPF102 but F254C is the same with MPF102” is that right?
the pin structure of F254C is D-S-G while the structure of MPF102 is
G-S-D.
Pierluigi Rogati
September 16, 2014 @ 4:36 am
If I want use it in my send/return amp I must do a modifications or I can
plug in the guitar-in the send of my preamp?
Marcos Laurito
January 20, 2015 @ 8:10 am
Hi, i want to build your cable and use it with a passive jazz bass instead of a guitar. Should i use the same electronics components that you?
I’ve built the simpler one that is on the web (the one with only one resistor and one condenser) and it works but the sound is horrible and low…
John
January 20, 2015 @ 8:12 am
It should work fine with a passive bass.
-John
Marcos Laurito
January 22, 2015 @ 10:13 am
Can you label the mpf102 pins on the diagram?? I dont know how to solder it.. Wich side is the flat side on your diagram??
Thanks a lot.
John
January 22, 2015 @ 10:19 am
Take a look at a datasheet:
http://www.onsemi.com/pub_link/Collateral/MPF102-D.PDF
MrGalgo87
January 29, 2015 @ 1:36 pm
i’m not into electronic components, but i found a circuit and it comes with
a resistor(the R1 from your circuit) of 39k instead of the 1M that you put
in your circuit, do you think 39k is enough? these are the resistors in the
order of your circuit, R1= 39k, R2= 1.2k and R3= 4.7k and they also use the
MPF102. and these are the values of the caps 22nf, 100nf and 470pf. here is
the circuit
http://guitar-gear.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach§ion=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=16412
magicnoypi
March 21, 2015 @ 1:53 pm
hi john, MPF102 is difficult to find here in my area.according to your
schematic, i can use 2N5457 as a substitute which luckily the shop here
have some stocks left. what will the value of R2 if I use this kind of
JFET? I need help pls. Thanks for your wonderful tutorial. cheers!
SteveF
October 8, 2015 @ 12:58 pm
Hi I just finished finished building a piezo buffer charge amp for ukulele. Would that be all I need to record into my macbook pro, or should I add this fet as a follower to my preamp?? Cheers
John
October 8, 2015 @ 1:39 pm
I would guess that your buffer should be sufficient, but not sure. I guess you’ll find out when you try it! 🙂
John
Sergei
June 5, 2016 @ 9:50 am
Hi. Thank you. I’ve built a prototype with a pretty much close to 102 analogue.
It works! both iPhone and MB Air (it does supply power, slightly less though)
One thing that bothers me is the feedback from headphone output into the mic input. It is fine until you turn gain on a soft amp or until you bring the headphone output high up in software. Tried both iPhone apps and guitar rig. Even wile watching a youtube video (on mac) with an amp gain active in guitar rig, that sound from video somehow bleeds into the input and makes that feedback noise (as if you put a mic too close to a speaker)
Is it just mine build or is it the flaw of the devices like iRig?
John
June 6, 2016 @ 10:08 am
Unfortunately, I believe that’s just in the nature of the iRig. If you search for this issue with IK’s iRig, you’ll find similar reports.
-John
Andy
August 27, 2016 @ 5:51 pm
Firstly, I love this schematic, very simple and clean. I built it and it works great on my iPad Pro, except that the input is incredibly quiet. Any thoughts on what might be the cause?
Andy
August 28, 2016 @ 5:08 pm
Actually, the problem isn’t it’s too quiet, what I was hearing was actually the onboard mic, and the iPad is just refusing to use the preamp.
John
August 28, 2016 @ 8:30 pm
Try experimenting with the source resistor R2 and see how it affects your gain. You could even try a trim pot there to easily try a range of values, then pick the value that works the best.
Good luck,
John