A Worthy Tribute
My new Epi Les Paul Tribute Plus arrived yesterday for my birthday, and it’s a beauty! These things are hard to find- none of the local stores have inventory, and every online retailer is backordered. I managed to get Guitar Center’s last one in the country(!) – from the store in Tonawanda, New York. The store manager there was great- sent me some pics, played it for me to confirm it was all good, gave me a great July 4th discount, and shipped it over for free. Thanks Chip!
Cosmetically, it’s really nice. Clean, well-defined flamed maple top and cream bindings. The cherryburst finish looks near-perfect- with rich warm coloring- not the bright overexposed yellow in the pictures at Guitar Center’s website. The Grover locking tuners feel fantastically smooth, and the switch, knobs and jack all seem good. And after some quick adjustments, it plays pretty well (but still needs some fine tuning).
The ’57 Classic pickups sound really dynamic, rich and beautiful – they’re warm when played gently, and crank when spanked. Love em. There’s quite a range of sounds with the push/pull series/parallel switching on the tone knobs. When a tone knob is pulled, the humbucker’s two coils are wired in parallel giving a lighter, brighter, thinner sound, somewhat reminiscent of a single coil (though different). It’s completely different from the ultra-thick and heavy series-humbucker sound (knob pushed in). This is a really versatile setup: a total of 8 different sounds using the 3 switches, not to mention the variations you can get by adjusting the volume knobs in the middle switch position.
The volume knobs are wired for non-independent volume, which is the traditional way to wire a two-pickup Gibson. This means that with the 3-way switch in the center, turning either volume knob all the way down will silence the guitar. No big deal- if you need to turn one pickup all the way down, use the 3-way switch instead! The benefit of this wiring over independent volume wiring is that there is very little treble loss when turning down, as the load on the pickup remains constant- so no real need for treble bleed caps.
My first impression of the sustain is good, but it isn’t as magically amazing as I remembered from the Gibson Les Paul Traditional. Has my memory of the super-sustain become distorted by my obsessing, or is there a significant difference caused by lower-quality woods, nut and bridge? I plan to take the guitar in with me to the Best Buy where I last played that Les Paul Traditional – at that price, I’m sure it’s still hanging there, way up high on the wall- and I’ll do a side-by-side comparison.
I believe the Gibson Les Paul’s bodies are a single piece of mahogany. This body appears to be made from three pieces of edge-glued mahogany. Perhaps this contributes to the sustain difference? Still, this is nowhere near as bad as these 5-piece veneered bodies made in Mexico for Fender.
The neck is probably a 3-piece edge-glued construction, but it’s very hard to see the joins. At first I thought I was looking at a one piece neck, but again- those are reserved for the premium-priced Gibsons.
There’s a nice mother-of-pearl inlaid Epiphone logo on the headstock. Around back, you can see the Grover logo embossed on each of the locking tuners. The serial number is stamped with the letter F followed by 6 numbers. That doesn’t appear to conform to any of the published Gibson/Epiphone serial numbering schemes, so I can’t ascertain the factory or build date. Surprisingly, there’s no Made In China sticker, but I’m assuming it was made sometime recently at the QingDao factory in China.
The neck feels better than I expected. I thought I’d need to immediately level and polish the frets, but it seems reasonably good to start with. That being said, even after my initial adjustments, I’m getting a bit of fret buzz on the lower strings, so I still have some work to do.
The inlaid rosewood fretboard is not the most beautiful specimen I’ve seen, but it’s acceptable. The inlays are nice and pearly, but the factory wasn’t very accurate with the routing. You can see a fairly large gap around the inlays, filled with some black filler. Not that big a deal, I guess. On the plus side, the inlays have been perfectly leveled with the fretboard. You can see in this picture that the board is a bit dry and pale, and there’s some buffing compound residue left in the pores. I plan give it a drink of oil, after doing Roman Rists’s razor-scraping technique, as he described in his big Epiphone setup tutorial on MyLesPaul and demonstrated on YouTube.
The electronics are cleanly wired. The volume pots are Alpha linear B500k. I haven’t removed the push/pull pots to examine them, so I can’t yet tell the manufacturer or resistance. One interesting detail- the tone pots turn with way less torque than the volume pots. The push/pulls are a bit hard to pull, but maybe they’ll loosen up over time. The low torque and heavy pull makes quick switching on the tone-knobs a little tricky. The two tone caps are Mallory 150 series .022uF (the same caps I tested in my Crazy Tone Thing series). The 3-way switch and jack are supposed to be Switchcraft, but I didn’t remove them to confirm.
The guitar weighs in at a respectable 9 pounds- heavy indeed, but not as bad as I feared. I’ve read stories of Les Paul’s in excess of 14 pounds!! I think I can get used to this- 9 pounds is only 1/2 pound more than my Riviera, and about a pound heavier than my G&L ASAT III.
In any case, I’ll be using an extra-wide Levy’s M4GF padded bass strap to ease the shoulder strain.
So far, I’ve heard no buzz or rattles from this LockTone Tune-o-matic, but I imagine it won’t be long before that wire starts rattling. I will most likely end up replacing the bridge with the Gotoh 1511 Tune-o-matic, which eliminates the retainer wire, and provides longer throw screws for better intonation. The only issue there is that all the replacement bridges seem to be 12” radius, while this guitar is 14” radius. Not sure how critical a difference that is.
Overall, this guitar is an incredible value, and a worthy tribute to its namesake.
Thanks to Chunling and my girls for this most awesome birthday gift 🙂 Think I’m gonna love it!
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Matheus
November 16, 2012 @ 5:45 pm
Hey man, I’m thinking about buying an Epiphone Les Paul 1960 Tribute, the same model of your.
I’m doubt about the Faded Cherryburst finish, because at the guitarcenter.com the pictures look different from photos that you uploaded here.
She is prettier live than on site, right?
Here is the GC website – http://www.guitarcenter.com/Epiphone-Les-Paul-Tribute-Plus-Electric-Guitar-108100215-i2258713.gc?esid=108100231
Add me on Facebook if you can.
Thanks,
Matheus from Brazil
John
November 16, 2012 @ 5:53 pm
Hi Matheus,
Yes, those pictures on GC’s website are not a good representation of the guitar. They’re overly bright and overexposed.
The faded cherryburst on mine is really quite beautiful and warm. I’ve seen a couple others in person, and they look like mine. The pictures in my post here are pretty accurate- so if you like these pics, you’ll like the guitar!
-John
Matheus
November 16, 2012 @ 6:10 pm
Thanks for replying dude!
I’m so excited to buy this guitar. I believe at the end of the year I’ll buy one just like your. When I buy, I’ll make some changes on it, like changing the knobs and draw the nickelcovers of pickups.
When I buy it and make modifications, I’ll send to you some pictures 😉
Thanks
John
November 16, 2012 @ 9:39 pm
Great- I’ll look forward to it.
Enjoy!
John
Matt
February 18, 2013 @ 8:45 pm
Just a quick mention- Since this made the first google page for all of us Tribute/plus owners and seekers.
You mention in the post “I believe the Gibson Les Paul’s bodies are a single piece of mahogany”
I wish it were always that case! Since the ’70’s Gibson has “experimented” with using two piece bodies on USA made LP’s… even at the Standard, Traditional, Deluxe and Custom level.
A two piece body is nothing to be upset about anyway! Chambering actually has a larger effect on tone than the amount of pieces in the body, provided the construction is solid.
Just wanted to throw that out there!
John
February 18, 2013 @ 9:26 pm
Hi Matt,
Thanks for the info- that’s good to know! I’m still loving this guitar, playing it every day.
Just curious – what was your google search term? I tried a few searches, and didn’t see my page come up on any of the results…
John
Mike
June 26, 2020 @ 3:10 pm
Hi John did you end up installing the gotoh 1511 bridge? Did it need any adjust or just drop straight in ? Thanks, Mike (New Zealand)
John Cooper
June 26, 2020 @ 8:02 pm
Hi Mike- yes, it dropped right in. But it was quite a few years ago, so double check your measurements. You can see this guitar with the replaced bridge here: https://www.planetz.com/three-les-pauls
Cheers,
John
Othmar
March 6, 2013 @ 5:59 am
Want to mention some things.
My Gibson Les Paul Studio and the Special both have 4-piece bodies.
I saw pics of LP Studio bodies made of even more pieces.
My Gibson Les Paul Trad Pro has a one piece body.
Generally Gibson has three Les Paul product lines, each with uncountable submodels:
The Studio’s and Specials: One to many piece bodies.
The Standard, Traditional and Classic: 1 to max. 3 piece bodies.
The Custom Shop LP’s: 1 piece body.
Got that info from a German Gibson Product Manager.
I think the better sustain of the Gibson Trad over the Epi Tribute comes from
– better wood quality of the Gibson
– different headstock angle
– different body neck connection
– higher quality bridge and stoptail at the Gibson
And … i still love me Epiphone Sheraton. 🙂
John
March 6, 2013 @ 9:57 am
Hey there,
Thanks for the message, and info about your LP’s. Interesting the variability in the body even within the Traditional line itself.
I spent a long time looking at these before buying:
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Les-Paul-Traditional/Specs.aspx
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Epiphone/Les-Paul-Tribute-Plus/Specs.aspx
There doesn’t seem to be a big difference in the neck set (both deepset mortise and tenon). There is a difference in the angle tolerances, but not sure how significant that is.
I couldn’t tell whether there’s a difference in neck angle from the specs- would like to see them side-by-side.
Certainly the wood quality is significant. The bridge is easy to replace.
In any case, I’m loving this LP, playing it every day 🙂
-John
Othmar
March 7, 2013 @ 1:11 am
Hey John,
i’m sure the Tribute is a great guitar. 🙂
I thought Epi uses a different neck set. But seems quite similar.
I think the biggest downside of Epiphones are the stock pickups.
But the Tribute already has the 57’s, which i find great. 🙂
I never hat one of these in my hands. Would be interesting to test a Epi Tribute LP side by side with the Gibson.
Think it will come pretty close.
I will replace the stock pickups and electronic of my Sheraton within the next days with Seymore Duncan SH1.
I had the opportunity to fiddle around with a Gibson Joe Bonamassa ES-335 a few weeks ago. The look and feel was not really different to the Sheraton. The sound certainly was.
But with the Duncans i think the Sheraton will come somehow closer. Of course it will not be the same. How could it be.
Sheraton inc. new pickups and electronics: € 650,–
Gibson JB ES-335: € 2.500,– or even more.
If there was no difference left than Gibson would do something completeley wrong. 🙂
Othmar
John
March 7, 2013 @ 1:01 pm
Yes, I love those Classic 57’s.
One of the biggest differences in Gibson vs Epi is “Made in USA”, vs “Made in China”. Labor and materials are cheaper in China. That’s a significant part of the price difference.
-John
George McDowell
November 8, 2013 @ 2:32 pm
Great guitar – just got one. A few notes:
Some of the best electric guitars of all time are made of multiple pieces of wood – that part is irrelevant to the guitar’s quality.
Necks made of multiple pieces of wood glued together are stronger than those made of one piece.
Gibson doesn’t send it’s “inferior” mahogany to China since there is no such thing. The wood is every bit as “good” in a Epi Tribute vs a Gibson Trad, for example. American labor is more expensive (thought that is changing as China is gaining a true middle class now) and that (and the assumed superiority of such instruments by buyers) is what accounts for the difference in price.
Personally, I think you’d have to be nuts to buy a Gibson Les Paul with this Epi being out there. (The same reason I bought a Classic Vibe Telecaster, which has a nicer neck and better finish than this Tribute Plus, instead of a Mexican – or American – Fender.
Any Tribute Plus owner should just be proud of the fact that they have a very high quality Les Paul for well under $1K.
John
November 8, 2013 @ 4:41 pm
Hey George,
Thanks for the note. I’m still playing my Tribute Plus every day, and loving it.
-John
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Alex
May 8, 2014 @ 9:01 am
Hi John,
Nice pictures. I got one for myself as well. But I found that the rhythm pickup sits an angle runs little bit unparalleled with the bridge. And I noticed that your rhythm pick runs paralleled, however the bridge pick up is at an angle from your first picture.
As an inexperienced guitar player, just want to ask is it normal? And how can I adjust that? If you need a picture from me, plz let me know. Thank you very much.
Best
Alex
Alex
May 8, 2014 @ 9:26 am
my neck pickup is a little slanted, lower left corner is higher than the one on lower right side. I did some research online, some people are talking about how unparalleled their pickups to the string, but nobody seems to talk about the pickup itself sitting slanted. Maybe adjust one of the screws? Thank you very much
Alex
John
May 8, 2014 @ 11:59 am
Hard to visualize what you’re saying. Yes, send me some pictures.
-John
John
May 8, 2014 @ 12:08 pm
Here’s a side-view picture of my pickups:
https://www.planetz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2012-07-10-Epiphone-Les-Paul-Tribute-Plus-006.jpg
Alex
May 8, 2014 @ 1:05 pm
Thank you very much for your reply.
I’m at office and will take a picture later when I get home. Is there an email address that I can send to? For privacy, you can send a link to my email address first and I’ll reply.
Really nice web and all the info., lucky to find out this niche on the internet.
I may need a set up for my Epiphone LP too but I just want to save some money on that. hahaha.
Alex
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Joze
October 21, 2015 @ 4:52 am
Hi, John!
I also own an epiphone les paul 1960 tribute plus in dark cherry colour. Its very beautiful guitar, with benefits of speedy neck and gibson PU`s.
I am considering changing nut for a bone one, and speed knobs for more historical accurate reflector knobs.
I have a question: would mil-spec Vitamin Q or Bumblebee caps much improve tone?
Did you replace the bridge? any problems with radius? which one did you put on?
Thanks for answer!
Joze
John
October 21, 2015 @ 7:51 am
I replaced the bridge with a Gotoh 1511-N. The matching stop piece is 5740-N.
http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/All_Hardware_and_Parts_by_Instrument/Electric_Guitar/Bridges_and_Tailpieces/Tune-o-matic_Bridges/Gotoh_Tune-o-matic_Bridge_with_Studs_Bushings.html
Changing the caps will have a subtle difference on the tone, but not critical.
-John
Joze
February 16, 2016 @ 3:33 am
Hi, John!
Is this stop piece (5740-N) suitable for wrap-around?
Thanks for answer!
Joze
John
February 16, 2016 @ 8:49 am
I haven’t tried it but I guess it should work fine for wraparound.
-John
Jože
July 7, 2016 @ 1:30 am
Hi, John!
I changed the bridge and stop piece according to your advice…and it works brilliant..guitar is a bit lighter and I can notice more sustain.. I also changed the nut for a bone one and changed knobs for more historical accurate reflector knobs.
What locking straps button do you recommend? these from Epiphone are too heavy and clumsy.
Thanks!
Jože
John
July 7, 2016 @ 8:52 am
Great to hear!
Agreed- those Epiphone strap locks aren’t so good. I replaced them with Dunlop Straploks:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002CZVXM/planetz
They work well, but they stick out kindof far.
On my SG, I used Loxx which I like even better, and are lower profile: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B005OEBWIG/planetz
-John
Jože
February 19, 2017 @ 1:53 pm
Hi, John!
I recently bought and fitted Seymour Duncan CS Bonamassa Skinnerburst PUs in my LP 1960 tribute plus..!!!OMG!!! what an awesome improvement over Gibson 57 classic and 57plus PUs…my tech said its better now than any Gibson standard he tried in many years 🙂
Cheers!
Jože
John
February 19, 2017 @ 2:37 pm
Nice! I’ve never tried those Skinner Bursts. Maybe some day!
-John